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Paid vs Free Membership Questions

Postby edwinnyc » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:19 am

If I were to set up a membership site, I would want for one group of people to have free access to advertise themselves for free and the other members would have to pay to see the other member ads.

Can this be done with a free program, if so what are the pros and cons to free vs buying a program.
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Re: Paid vs Free Membership Questions

Postby robert adams » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:33 pm

edwinnyc wrote:If I were to set up a membership site, I would want for one group of people to have free access to advertise themselves for free and the other members would have to pay to see the other member ads.

Can this be done with a free program, if so what are the pros and cons to free vs buying a program.

yes, you could do that with any number of free programs, but what makes you think that anyone is going to pay to see ads?

what is the point?

I think you are going at this a little backwards.

by the way, all you really need to create a membership site is a way to password protect a certain directory/folder on your website.

you can do that from your hosting control panel usually.

then you give out username/password combinations ( sell them, whatever ) and put them in the file and put your member only material inside that folder
poof, you're done, membership site!

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Postby KnoxWAHM » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:00 pm

Edwinn:

I'm kind of in the same boat in that I'd like a forum where some perhaps pay and others don't - still mulling over potential revenue streams in the elite member folder here.


Anyways, I've found SMF (Simple Machines) and phpBB, both free options and both have what a mod that for payment.
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Postby karynsolo » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:12 pm

I would think that you would want to offer a free option to the members of the forum and charge those who want to advertise so that your site costs are covered and you make a little extra on the side for your time and efforts.
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Thanks guys.....if use my host provider

Postby edwinnyc » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:56 pm

Thanks guys..

Hey Robert what's up....if I use my host provider little confused about this yet, are you saying I can build a website like the one I have, and password protect a section of that site for members only. So are you referring to my existing website and password protecting that one, so if this is possible robert what would be the advantages or disadvantages of just using my site and password protecting it vs getting a free software as know recommended or some paid version of simple machines recommended by knox

Hi knox .....

Looked over simple machines....wonder about what it may lack is growth capabilities hummmm just thought of that...dahhhhh which way did go george..he went that a way george that wayyyyy ...lol

I think, I need to think about if I set up a site to do this well what software out there can I use and what should I be asking myself about what growth unexpected growth I will encounter that I will have to deal with and what growth capabilities certain programs will give me vs others

We have to think about tomorrow and what can it bring, if I do not think about these things I can pay a price, so maybe I should also be asking if I have to upgrade will it be difficult to switch to some thing more

Are there different types of membership sites, advanced hummmm

Now I am making myself nervous....lol robert what do you think what about you other guyssssss........edwin
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Postby robert adams » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:22 pm

you first have to decide exactly what the purpose of this membership site is going to be.

what are you going to offer your members?

why would they pay you for it?

( your original idea of charging people to see ads is just not going to work. )

then, you make your decisions about what software ( if any ) that you need.
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Postby robert adams » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:42 pm

Now about my previous post on using your hosting provider.

you can go to your hosting control panel,
the place where you go to create new email addresses, new databases, etc, etc.

If you are using a hosting company that offers "CPANEL" then you access it like this:

yourdomain.com/cpanel


from there you will find a link to a place that allows you to password protect a directlry/folder on your website.

once you have that done, then you put whatever you want to protect into that directory/folder and that is it.

here is an example I just did for you to see.

http://phpbbace.com/edwin/

log in with the username: edwin
password: test

here is a video on how to do this:
cpanel password protect


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password protecting the site

Postby edwinnyc » Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:06 pm

Robert what would be disadvantages if i were to use my own site to accomplish what it is i wish to do if I were to do it.
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Postby robert adams » Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:19 pm

not sure I understand.

how would you do whatever it is you want to do, if you did not use your own site?

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well ....

Postby edwinnyc » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:36 pm

not sure myself but would want to have others pay to view information, so actually it would not be the advertisers paying it would be the people whom like to view the info, so if this could be done somehow on my site for now it could work...:>)
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Postby robert adams » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:45 pm

you need to explain a little better what you are trying to do.

having people pay for access to info is fine.
that is not what you said before, you said you wanted to charge people to look at ads.

did you go look at the sample I linked you to?

did you ssee the log in box and did you log in and see the page I put up.

you can do the very same thing on your site.
then anything you want people to pay to see, you put in that folder that is protected by the login box.

then you charge people to get a username and password.

that is a very basic manually operated system that works very well.

try it out for yourself. I also linked you to a video that shows you how to do it if your hosting control panel is cpanel.
If it is not, then it will be something similar.

If you tell me who your host is, I can tell you exactly how to do it.

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hey robert u got me smiling

Postby edwinnyc » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:09 am

Ok...checked out what you did so this is an option what I do not know what may be the limitations. Liked your cop made me put a smile on face...lol Thanks needed that...lol

Can not openly talk about here or anywhere my idea robert since it is a new idea and could be picked up if not careful.
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Re: hey robert u got me smiling

Postby robert adams » Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:22 pm

edwinnyc wrote:Ok...checked out what you did so this is an option what I do not know what may be the limitations. Liked your cop made me put a smile on face...lol Thanks needed that...lol

Can not openly talk about here or anywhere my idea robert since it is a new idea and could be picked up if not careful.

Ok, I understand about not revealing a new idea.

Well that method of password protecting an area does have it's problems if you start getting a lot of members. It is strictly manual.

This is where you get into whether you need to buy a membership script or use one of the free ones.

If you buy one, how much to you spend versus what you are getting etc. etc.

I know that is basically what you were asking about before.

scripts like amember, etc. are great but they too have their limitations.

for one thing, they are expensive.
for another, most of them limit how many times you can install them and use them without buying another liscense.

some of them charge by the month etc.

NOw, there are some membership scripts out there that are basically the same thing as aweber etc. , that you pay for once and then you own it and can do whatever you wish with it.

This is what the point of my earlier exercise was, all a membership script does is password protect a certain section(folder) of your website. That is all any of them do.

How they do it, and how easy it is to add new members and delete members, and charge for the memberships, etc, etc. , is what you base your decision on.

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Yea robert...

Postby edwinnyc » Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:50 pm

Then I will have to look into something more complete to possibly handle any growth. thanks
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