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Blogs and backlinks

Postby Richard Norman » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:55 am

Hello

I have not been around for a month or two. I have been very busy implementing all the things suggested by Lynn and others.

Well, we did something right, traffic has increased slowly and sales through our site have increased very noticeably, this is called conversion I beleive, well what we have been doing has made a convert out of me.

But one thing puzzles me.

On advice taken I started to write up a few blogs, with the intention of inserting backlinks to various pages of my site.

For the first time in quite a while I checked the site with Yahoos Site Explorer, I found links from the various "Hub" entries I had written, but no where to be seen were all the other links from my other blogs, not even one.

I was assured that blogging was a good way to get backlinks, but why do they not feature in Site Explorer?

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Postby Ron Killian » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:32 pm

It might be the blogs you used. I am guessing you used blogs provided by others? They might have nofollow tags on the links. Another thing, it does take some time for back links to show up.

Hard to say for sure with out more information, like where you blogged?
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These are the blogs I use

Postby Richard Norman » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:51 am

Hello and thank you for your reply.

I am unsure what you mean when you say "I am guessing you used blogs provided by others".

Do you mean I used blogs suggested by others?

The blogs I use are Tumblr, Wet Paint & Word Press.

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Postby AlexNewell » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:36 am

Sometimes on doing link checking not all the links are shown. if you check on a regular basis you will see fluctuations.

Try also putting your material into article directories or even just ezine articles.

And keep plugging away with other web 20 sites. You may not see links but people will click through on any links you leave.

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Thank you Alex

Postby Richard Norman » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:47 am

Thank you Alex I hear what you say.

I didn't understand what you meant when you said:

"And keep plugging away with other web 20 sites"

I look forward to Rons reply if he gets a moment.

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Postby AlexNewell » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:10 am

"The blogs I use are Tumblr, Wet Paint & Word Press. "

These are web 20 sites. ( as in web 2 point zero )

There's loads more- squidoo is probably the best. You can create as many lenses as you like.

You don't really care if they are blogs - a link is a link.

That's why ezine articles is so good - they are often found on the front page of google. Every article is a link.

You could also try

quizilla
scribd
clearblogs
blogger
wikidot


and some of these maybe opened under a pen name!

Then open accounts with social bookmarking sites stumbleupon, propeller, mixx using a pen name and vote for your sites.

Get a friend to help too. This gets the ball rolling. As soon as a few votes are there lots of others will come along to have a look.

All The Best

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Learning here.

Postby Richard Norman » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:11 am

I am learning thank you.

So these web 20 sites are a waste of time when it comes to creating incoming lnks for my site?

Richard

P.S. I am already working on ezine articles, they do show up in site explorer.

I wasted a lot of time with tumblr, wet paint and word press.
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Postby AlexNewell » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:26 am

NO there's no waste of time at all .

Every bit of web space you occupy and pop a link on is good. Some of them are better than others but all are useful.

And also don't put too much trust in link checking software. If you put a link there it IS there. Whether yahoo or google will tell you it's there does not matter. Your visitors can see it and click on it.

Have you got a traffic or stats package?

You need something so that you can see why people are coming to your site and what search terms they are using. It is important to watch these numbers to measure your progress.

All The Best

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Thank you Alex

Postby Richard Norman » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:37 am

Thank you Alex

I use Google analytics, but it is difficult for me to know what to do with the wealth of information Google supplies, maybe it's time to start doing this in earnest. We have had a large increase in sales from our site, I put it down to writing better copy finally.

Alex, you gave these blogs a thumbs up, does that mean these blogs will allow my backlinks, and therefore not part of web 2.0

squidoo
quizilla
scribd
clearblogs
blogger
wikidot


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Postby AlexNewell » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:24 am

Google analytics is fine.

I think you may well be right that writing better copy is crucial.Well done on the sales increase.

Probably the best thing you can get from a stats package is to look at the search terms people use. They may puzzle you but look for common factors. if you keep getting visitors looking for a particular item that you could provide but do not then consider including that in your offer.

Let's try and clear up this term web 2.0 - wish I hadn't used it! :-)

It just means a site where readers can make comments and maybe vote on content

so blogs are web 2.0 and so is squidoo, hub pages, weebly, etc

Even amazon is now a web 20 site - just look at all the online reviews and comments there.

some of these sites have a "no follow" tag on the links from these sites. So the links will not count towards Google PageRank but a link is still a link and you will get visitors from all these sites as their users browse and chat and comment.

All of the sites you have mentioned are great and are not a waste of time.

Frankly forums are web 20 really - look at what we are doing. We are adding content to this site. Each time we do a new link is created by the signature file

You may judge that some people are just posting lots of times to get more backlinks.

;-)

No names mentioned!

Getting back to Hub pages - they are very interesting because if you put a little content there they give you a low hub score and as you improve the page the score increases and they turn the "no follow" tag off!

It's a judgement call really -you may get better results by going through your sales page and testing different headlines, sub heads, bullets, images on the page, guarantee etc rather than spending too much time putting stuff on lenses and hubs.

Best idea really is to get someone to do this stuff for you and you focus on the business

I'm beginning to ramble...

All The Best

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Postby Ron Killian » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:22 pm

That's what I was asking, if you used blogs such as free hosted one, like the ones you mentioned. I asked because those type are usually quicker to show up in the ranks because they are powerful popular sites.

Alex gave plenty of good advice. Though, many might call them web 2.0 sites, same thing I guess. Or some call them social sites. But yes, as he pointed out, they are all worth posting too. If your mainly looking for back links, post to every one you can find, with the right anchor text, that's important. Blogger by google is another good one.

I've had bad luck with Wordpress hosted blogs, they deleted three I made, they don't like promotional type blogs. Which is fine, their site, their rules, understandable.

Another big question, how are you checking back links? Google has been way off for years. Yahoo site explorer is the most accurate I use.

I personally don't keep track of backlinks, I just keep track of my ranks for my keywords, that is my end goal. From where I rank, I know what needs more "juice". About the only time I check is when some one is beating me in the ranks, see what they are doing.

Another powerful link back tactic that few seem to use or realize is RSS feeds. To me, an RSS feed for your site is as important, or slightly more important than a site map.

RSS feeds gives you something else to submit to places you wouldn't normally submit your site, such as RSS directories. Your feeds can also get picked up and published by others, usually scrappers, but it's still link backs.

Many social sites such as mybloglog, multiply, even blogger blogs allow you to add a rss feed to your "profile". This of course means, as your feed updates on your site, as you add new content, the feed info is also updated on the social sites you placed it, automatically. The big key is it gives you deeper links that you might not normally receive, or have the time for.

A number of social sites also generate rss feeds for your "profile". Once you have your info in, you could submit those feeds to places like pingomatic. Get the SE's finding your back links even quicker.

Even with twitter you can use twitter feeds to add your RSS. Every time you add content or your feed is updated, it automatically posts to your twitter account. Great for bloggers, and a time saver.

I have an add-on for firefox, where I can right click and click on nofollow, it shows if links are nofollow or not. Again if you looking for back links it could keep you from wasting time on a social site that in the end, won't provide you with back links.

Guess I ramble too much myself. Hope some one will find it useful :)
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Postby Learning » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:52 pm

Hi Richard!
It' Eren - remember me? I changed my profile picture-- the other one was too dark. I'm so proud of you! Over 400 backlinks to your site and a great page rank!
That's wonderful. Truly wonderful Richard!
I'm sooo glad you are advancing. I haven't had a lot of time since I've been working so hard with learning the technical abilities to get things up and running on my blog.
Just wanted to say hi and congratulations!
Blessings to you,
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Postby allmylovecrafts » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:13 am

Some Bookmarking sites are DoFollow. But, to use them properly you really need to have a great bunch of readers that will bookmark for you.

NING sites also allow you to put on an RSS feed with 2 simple steps. Like stated before your profile is an internal page and may not hold any rank. But, if you are active there you can get visitors to your profile page that may see your links.

FriendFeed is also a place to hook in RSS. They are NoFollow. But, are still a link.

I do not worry about Do or No follow links when it comes to most places.

I do allot of blog commenting and I am looking to interest the the other readers in what I have to say. Then if I come off as 1/2 intelligent they may click my link.

Someone told me that EZine articles is now NoFollow. Not sure because I never use them.

I do know that Hub & Tumbler has gotten very strict about their pages being used for 'splogs'.

Just do some keyword research and you may find a better phrase that will pull in more traffic. Some of the general ones are very hard to rank well in. Look for a specific set of phrases that get good traffic yet, are not being used by the Big Guys.

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Postby Learning » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:44 pm

Hi there- just wanted you to know that ezine articles is do follow. Each article submitted needs to be unique content not posted anywhere else on the web.
The way you guys can determine do follow or no follow is like this.
Right click on the link- find the wording that says properties and click it.
A new window will come up and it will tell you stuff about the link.
If it says relation= no follow it's a no follow. If it doesn't say this then it is a do follow.
No follow links don't give you any link juice neither do they give you ranking points. But they may bring you visitors to your site if that page is very visited so they may be good for marketing and promotion--- not necessarily for SEO.
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Postby allmylovecrafts » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:44 pm

I use the Search Status add on from FireFox, it highlights NoFollow links.

The only SE that even notices the NoFollow tag is Google, Many SEO's even say that Google does follow it but just no PR passed on.

Page rank is only a small part of getting listed high in the SERP's I have individual pages with n/a PR that rank higher in the SERP's than my pages with a PR of 2.

Allot of people go for home domain PR so they can sell advertising. I like to get individual PR just because I can. LOL!

Yeah, I was not sure about Ezine Articles because I never go there. Guess I could of checked but, did not want to give them a click. ;)

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